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Gustav Genschow & Co, TM 'Geco', was not a gunmaker, but a wholesaler and exporter. They had most of the guns they sold under their geco trade label made for them by the Zella-Mehlis guntrade, dating your rifle should be easy: Since 1911 the Zella-Mehlis proofhouse regularly stamped the date of proof besides the BUGN proofmarks. When you have the rifle in hand, take it apart. You will find the proofmarks and additional information under the rear end of the barrel. If the proofmarks are complete and legible, you will find sets of numbers: First, the bore (not groove or bullet) diameter of the barrel at time of proof, in case of a 9.3x57 probably a '9,0mm', followed by the case length '57'. Next should be the month and year of proof, given for example as '2.28' standing for February 1928. Last there will be a ledger number for that month, running between one to four digits.

If you find other numbers or letters, post a photo. Some marks there may even point to the real maker. Gustav Genschow & Co, TM 'Geco', was not a gunmaker, but a wholesaler and exporter. They had most of the guns they sold under their geco trade label made for them by the Zella-Mehlis guntrade, dating your rifle should be easy: Since 1911 the Zella-Mehlis proofhouse regularly stamped the date of proof besides the BUGN proofmarks. When you have the rifle in hand, take it apart. You will find the proofmarks and additional information under the rear end of the barrel.

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If the proofmarks are complete and legible, you will find sets of numbers: First, the bore (not groove or bullet) diameter of the barrel at time of proof, in case of a 9.3x57 probably a '9,0mm', followed by the case length '57'. Next should be the month and year of proof, given for example as '2.28' standing for February 1928. Last there will be a ledger number for that month, running between one to four digits.

Steyr Mannlicher Model M Serial Numbers

If you find other numbers or letters, post a photo. Some marks there may even point to the real maker. Unfortunately the 8x50r m95 i have has been sporterized by some bubba in the past.

Cut stock and all. I picked it up as it was super cheap. No one at the shop knew what it was. I literally paid just a call in fee for it basically. Long time ago.the 8x56 hasn't been outta the closet in year.er decade.

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Hello, New member here trying to ID my Mannlicher-Schoenauer. I inheritied the rifle, never fired it. It is absolutely beautiful. I am trying to determine a rough manufacture date and verify caliber. Information; Bottom of magazine plate marked GERMANY.

Left side of rifle has following markings; 86892 (I assume SN). It again has 86892 7,6S (I picked up somewhere 7,6S is metric for.30-06). Other markings US 1906. Then what I assume is a standard manufacture marking Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf A/N. With the exception of various proof markings there is not much else.Any additional information you can provide or confirm would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any assistance.

All, Here is some additional information and hopefully successfully posted pictures. The overall length is 40 4/16', Barrel is 19'. Two folding rear sight plates front and back of a stationary one (consecutively marked 100/200/300) each with last three digits of SN. Action stamped Waffenfabrik Mauser-Oberndorf A/N.

Forward of that is US 1906 and SN 86892 below with BU proof mark. Forward of that is SN again followed by marking of 7,6S.

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Double set trigger. Trigger guard push button floor plate release. Floor plate marked GERMANY.

Butterknife handle with last 4 digits of SN and BU proof marks. Other small parts marked with last 2 digits of SN. Butt plate marked MAUSER with small detailed scroll work above and below name. Mauser mark is on hinged door that opens to two round storage holes. One larger than other. Still has brass wire pull cleaning brush with string. Looking for any additional information that can be provided; Caliber, manufacture date, value.

Posted info in pictures in case attachments doesnt work. Again, thanks in advance for any help. A picture is truely worth a thousand words - Thank you.You do not have a Mannlicher-Schoenauer Carbine, which have an internal, detachable spool magazine and the bolt handle ahead of a split rear receiver ring when in battery.What it appears you DO have is a pristine, and much more valuable by far, Oberndorf Mauser 98 Commercial Sporting Carbine, Type M, that although made from 1898 to 1946, was produced between 1914 and 1946 because the Modell M was introduced in 1914.Any alteration, or damage to what I see pictured, can easily change a $4K +/- collector's item into a $400 shooter.

Hey Julla,I also agree with PetahW that is a commercial Oberndorf Mauser Mannlicher, and appears to be in superb condition. That one is quite valuable and collectible.

I have 37 commercial Mauser Mannlichers in my collection that I started collecting in '61 thru '98 and have those made in Germany, Austria, Chec., and variations w/wo scopes, dbl set trig., hex bbls., and 5 engraved models. The Mannlicher is my favorite of all rifles and when I was in business gunsmithing, I built 118 custom Mannlichers for customers, and one particular gent bought 23 of my customs. My best customer(RIP). They are the cream-of-the-crop sporting rifles and such a pleasure to hunt with.

Thanks for the post. I have recently acquired a Steyr Mannlicher Schonauer. This particular gun was reported to have been during the Stoeger import during the 50s and 60s. The reason I am contacting you is to ask about an unusual mark on the receiver that states the gun is 6.4 Mg.

The gentleman I purchased it from believed it to be a 6.4 Magnum? I can find no mention of a 6.4 Magnum ever being made, much less in the Steyr Mannlicher.

Can you help me decipher this marking/caliber? I appreciate any incite you can give.

Thank you in advance for all of your help. PetahW, Thanks for the additional explanation as I am anxious to capture any additional history and identification characteristics for my records. And also for the clarification on barrel measurement. I will do that to confirm.Denny, Thanks for the input. Your collection is clearly extensive. I appreciate the additional feedback. I am still interested in zeroing in on manufacture date.

With your collection expertise do you have any estimated timeline based on SN? Or do either of you have any recommended Internet source I might go hunting in?

Thanks again.Julla SWHM (Sleeping With His Mauser). I don't knoww of a commercial Mauser website, where serial numbers can be traced. A picture is truely worth a thousand words - Thank you.You do not have a Mannlicher-Schoenauer Carbine, which have an internal, detachable spool magazine and the bolt handle ahead of a split rear receiver ring when in battery.What it appears you DO have is a pristine, and much more valuable by far, Oberndorf Mauser 98 Commercial Sporting Carbine, Type M, that although made from 1898 to 1946, was produced between 1914 and 1946 because the Modell M was introduced in 1914.Any alteration, or damage to what I see pictured, can easily change a $4K +/- collector's item into a $400 shooter.

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Click to expand.I have a similar rifle and can't find anything about what it is. Your posts are the closest I've come to an answer. I hope you can confirm what it is.The receiver is stamped '6,5KP Waffenfabrik Mauser - Oberndorf N/A'; the barrel has 250/3000; the serial number is 879XX; the bolt number matches the last two numbers of the serial no.; the stock is an uncheckered Mannlicher 'style' with a couple inches of black wood near the bore; there is an adjustable set trigger; above the serial no. Are 'Crown over U' and 'Crown over B' stamps.

When I acquired it there was a Weaver K4 scope mounted and no sign of any metal sights ever being installed.Any idea on value?.The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts. Join us to discuss firearms of all kinds, gun accessories, legal issues and more.

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